Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

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Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:35 pm



Who do you think is the top dawg? (no pun intended)

mod sticky for this to be the official VF VS. IP thread? Plox?
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:38 pm



VF - Painted Sticks
IP - Non-Painted Sticks

You're going to have those two factions fight about why they like that quality better. Then the stragglers will choose a particular stick from the company and stick with that company. Both are inconsistent when it comes to pitch matching, both companies will give you dead pairs, both companies are sponsored by big lines. It's a preference.

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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:41 pm



ottomagne wrote:VF - Painted Sticks
IP - Non-Painted Sticks

You're going to have those two factions fight about why they like that quality better. Then the stragglers will choose a particular stick from the company and stick with that company. Both are inconsistent when it comes to pitch matching, both companies will give you dead pairs, both companies are sponsored by big lines. It's a preference.

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That may be true, but you have to remember VF has some pretty badass non painted sticks as well. Beddis
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:45 pm



It still just comes down to people having a favorite stick or a preferable experience with company X. I know for a long time, I was a staunch VF only man. VF tenor mallets, snare sticks, drum set sticks, everything. After getting a little more experience though, I've come to like a multitude of sticks from a multitude of companies. The Casella, DC-50's, Vega (both VF and Promark), Aungst Hybrid... Each company is decent in it's own right.
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:45 pm



i mean, honestly, which do you prefer?
i have marched in HS and Div. 2 DCI.
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:50 pm



It depends on the situation for me. Both companies make solid products, some VF sticks/mallets work better for me in certain contexts vs a comparable pair of IP sticks, and vice versa.
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:08 pm



i dont think this is sticky worthy
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:08 pm



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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

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AjaxHammer wrote:i dont think this is sticky worthy
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:13 pm



VF on tenors but i love IP snare Sticks
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:54 am



I've been a VF user/fan for years now and i'm a satisfied customer. I'm in love with my MS2's and Lee Beddis sticks. I use VF American Classics for my drumset and i've never had a prob with any of them @ all. For some reason all my IP marching sticks tend to die very fast so I just stick with VF.


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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:53 am



IPs pit stuff is WAAAAY better than Vic Firth.
I prefer IPs bass mallets by a lot.
I prefer Vic Firth's tenor mallets.
As long as it's a good pair, the snare sticks are fairly even.


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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:00 am



iDrum wrote:I've been a VF user/fan for years now and i'm a satisfied customer. I'm in love with my MS2's and Lee Beddis sticks. I use VF American Classics for my drumset and i've never had a prob with any of them @ all. For some reason all my IP marching sticks tend to die very fast so I just stick with VF.
I use the same exact sticks as you. Hilarious,.
i have marched in HS and Div. 2 DCI.
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sQuiGglyMuFflYWiGS wrote:when your about to go insane take the time to stop and appreciate how nice the color guard girls butt looks while shes wearing virtually nothing. give yourself a highfive then go back to being awesome at band.


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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:49 am



From my personal experience IP is much less consistent than VF, but when you get a good pair, they're great.
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:58 am



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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:55 pm



ottomagne wrote:
AjaxHammer wrote:i dont think this is sticky worthy
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:34 pm



Vic-Firths are way better at getting you a good set of sticks, but I do like some of the IP models better. Vic definitely gets the win when it comes to tenor sticks though.
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

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From personal experience I get the best results from Innovative, especially from the Paul Rennick Outdoor snare sticks (FSPR2) and Paul Rennick Tenor Sticks (TSPR). They feel better in my hands and I like the weight distribution, and the pitch matching was nearly perfect. On the other hands, I am switching my bass drummers to Ahead Percussion for their bass mallets (I had them on Vic Firth before, unlike the upper battery)
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

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Gormstorm wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:57 am
*Replying to an 8 year old thread*
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:57 am
From personal experience I get the best results from Innovative, especially from the Paul Rennick Outdoor snare sticks (FSPR2) and Paul Rennick Tenor Sticks (TSPR). They feel better in my hands and I like the weight distribution, and the pitch matching was nearly perfect. On the other hands, I am switching my bass drummers to Ahead Percussion for their bass mallets (I had them on Vic Firth before, unlike the upper battery)
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VF - Painted Sticks
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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:48 pm



Haven't used a wide range of different sticks from each but as a tenor player you definitely have more variety as far as there being more options for mallets, hybrids, or normal sticks. As far as durability promark has the best in my experience, vic second, and innovative third. Ive had countless pairs of casella's and rennick's(tenors) and they all seemed to break/ go dead within a few weeks or a month or so if I was lucky(those are two very good sticks though). As for vic, my sticks usually hold up pretty good. I have a pair of Mapes tenor sticks that I still use for practice sometimes after over a year of use, I've had a pair of hannums that ive been using for almost 10 months and they still look brand new, they hold up pretty well. Nothing beats promark as far as durability in my experience though, I have two pairs of sean vegas that ive been using daily for months and they work like new, in fact one of my friends STILL uses his vegas that he got two years ago, and they still work fine(we call them "tanks" cuz they never break). As far as playing quality, casellas are one of my favorite sticks to use for practicing at home, either on my snare or quad pad, and the rennick tenor sticks are one of my if not my favorite tenor stick as it feels so natural and balanced to play with. Ive used other IP sticks here and there but I'm just basing my opinion off those two as i use them most, but i gotta give it to vic cuz ive never used any tenor sticks from them that I've disliked, except for the nylon tip Hardimons, but the wood tips are a great stick. Some of my other favorites gotta be the Aungst, Mapes, MT4A mallets, Billy clubs, and wood tip hardimons, great all around sticks for practice or performing IMO


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Re: Vic Firth Vs. Innovative Percussion

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This thread is still alive... Wow hahaha.
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