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Drum Corps? (what is it? what is dca/wgi?)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:12 am



I'm kinda of a noob when it comes to drum corps. First of all, what does that refer to, simply a drumline in a college or is that something different entirely? I.e. RCC Drumline vs. Phantom Regiment and how does one enter one (can you enter one in high school) and what is "aging out"? What and where are these associated camps a lot of people are commenting on? Finally, are there separate marching drumming associations/lines not associated with schools (possibly for adults as a career) or is that a corps. Thanks for the replys guys; hope this question isn't too ignorant or overanalysized on my part :)


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Drum Corps (short for drum & bugle corps) are independent marching ensembles that consist of: Color guard, Percussion (Front ensemble and battery), and Brass. Drum corps are independent and don't have affiliation with any schools, but they are all connected to an organization called DCI. Phantom Regiment is a drum corps.

RCC Drumline is not a drum corps. RCC Drumline usually refers to the indoor drumline. Indoor drumlines are independent percussion ensembles that compete indoors. They are connected to an organization called WGI.

When people talk about drum corps camps, it usually refers to audition camps. You don't just say, "Hey, I want to join Phantom Regiment" and then they let you in. You must go to the camps and show you have the skills for drum corps. You can join DCI when you are high school age up until you are 21 yrs-old. (22 if after a certain date.)

There are corps for people older than 21 (but not limited to people older than 21) called senior corps. That's called DCA.

To join any of the above you must pay. Getting money out of your marching percussion skills is not easy. The best you could do would probably be to teach.

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:12 am



I love TheDude - excellent response.

I remember going to my first drum corps show in 1995, completely clueless. When we got to the stadium I heard hornlines warming up and I was like, 'Oh man, I thought this was just going to be drums! " :x

Then I saw Scouts '95 and couldn't sleep for like 3 days because it made such an impression on me. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:49 am



wait wait.

how much money would you make if you did a drum corps, got a docterates degree in music, teach, and do clinicians? how much money would that be about every year?


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nice question, and I should probably sticky this just in case someone else is too afraid to ask in the future. Nice response TheDude.

I would also like to add that not only do you have to pay a corps fee to be with the corps if you make the cut, you also don't get paid to march. Once you pay your corps fee for the summer that pays for your food, places to sleep (gym floors, sometimes hotels if it's finals night), gas (that goes on the buses) .


In DCI (Drum Corps International) there's two divisions : World Class (used to be called Div. 1) and Open Class (used to be divided up as Div. 2 and Div. 3), those are based on size (world being bigger) and though it's never officially said, how good they are more people get a better entertainment factor out of the world class corps opposed to the open class corps . That being said it's harder to get into world class than it is in Open class.

Corps meet once a month (auditions are still kind of held during this time) to learn the music and the drill until May comes around and the corps does a thing called "move-ins" , where they move into a place where the corps can sleep and rehearse. Most of the time they check when is the best time for most of the kids in high school and college to move-in even though some have to miss a few weeks due to later semester end dates.

Then they tour throughout the summer in a form of competition, where the shows get better and better...what you hear at the beginning of the tour in mid to late June wont be as exciting or as well executed as the same corps and the same show will sound during Finals week in August.

Shows are held in high school stadiums and colleges if possible, Regionals such as the DCI Southeastern Championship or DCI Eastern Classic are held in college stadiums.


for more info go to dci.org

DCA is Drum Corps Associates, which as TheDude said is consisted mostly of those who can no longer march in DCI and some who can. Corps tour and rehearse on the weekends, that way the members can work during the weekdays. There is Class A and Open Class in DCA, which sort of works like the way DCI does. DCA mostly has older people who aged out of DCI years ago as well as 14 year olds who didn't get into their corps of choice, or just want an easy start early in life. Finals week for DCA is way later, in September at Rochester, NY.

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WGI is Winter Guard International and consists of two immediate divisions: Colorguard and Percussion

within those there's Independent and Scholastic divisions , Independent meaning they stand alone as an organization and Scholastic meaning they are from a high school or college.

Within the Independent and Scholastic Divisions theres Class A, Open Class, and World Class.

As far as I know most independent organizations rehearse on the weekends while the scholastic ones do it at their digression (every day, just the weekends, whatever)


Indoor drumlines have the whole show with well...just drums! Pit usually has to take up more of the melody and battery ends up doing more visual/body work then that typically do in drum corps, although the activity is being pushed every year due to WGI's advances in what we can do with drums on carriers, in turn it helps out the drum corps activity.

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:13 pm



snarescience wrote:I love TheDude - excellent response.
Thanks. :D Although I now realize I did make a mistake. I said indoor drumlines are independent (which some are not), but PhantomPhan89 clarified that.
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lol yeah it was kind of embarassing asking something that seemed like everyone else knew about, :oops: but i figured i had to learn some time; better sooner than later. After reading through a lot of forums i saw the people here are pretty friendly and informative so it didn't seem so bad. :) Woohoo I got a sticky! :lol:


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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:04 am



hey i always wanted to know why woodwinds arent included in DCI. o_o


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I know I'm very late in responding but drum corps don't have woodwinds because you cannot hear them unless nobody else is playing. This however is a whole nother' argument for another day, haha. You can find pages upon pages about this argument at drumcorpsplanet.com 's forums, just like you can find arguments about weither people should switch to Bflat or G keyed bugles, or if we should even call it drum and BUGLE corps, and vocalization, blah blah blah.
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Chris_Dakine wrote:hey i always wanted to know why woodwinds arent included in DCI. o_o
because woodwind players have no business in something as BA as Drumcorps!
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Timartin wrote:
Chris_Dakine wrote:hey i always wanted to know why woodwinds arent included in DCI. o_o
because woodwind players have no business in something as BA as Drumcorps!
...well, it's ACTUALLY because the activity evolved out of the old military/VFW marching parade bands which didn't have woodwinds. These old brass instruments were bugles - meaning no valves. All the notes are made with the embouchre. Woodwinds really can't be heard over the brass so they just never were utilized...
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PhantomPhan89 wrote:nice question, and I should probably sticky this just in case someone else is too afraid to ask in the future. Nice response TheDude.

I would also like to add that not only do you have to pay a corps fee to be with the corps if you make the cut, you also don't get paid to march. Once you pay your corps fee for the summer that pays for your food, places to sleep (gym floors, sometimes hotels if it's finals night), gas (that goes on the buses) .


In DCI (Drum Corps International) there's two divisions : World Class (used to be called Div. 1) and Open Class (used to be divided up as Div. 2 and Div. 3), those are based on size (world being bigger) and though it's never officially said, how good they are (more people get a better entertainment factor out of the world class corps opposed to the open class corps) . That being said it's harder to get into world class than it is in Open class.

Corps meet once a month (auditions are still kind of held during this time) to learn the music and the drill until May comes around and the corps does a thing called "move-ins" , where they move into a place where the corps can sleep and rehearse. Most of the time they make deals with colleges to do this.

Then they tour throughout the summer in a form of competition, where the shows get better and better...what you hear at the beginning of the tour in mid to late June wont be as exciting or as well executed as the same corps and the same show will sound during Finals week in August.

Shows are held in high school stadiums and colleges if possible, Regionals such as the DCI Southeastern Championship or DCI Eastern Classic are held in college stadiums.


for more info go to dci.org

DCA is Drum Corps Associates, which as TheDude said is consisted mostly of those who can no longer march in DCI and some who can. Corps tour and rehearse on the weekends, that way the members can work during the weekdays. There is Class A and Open Class in DCA, which sort of works like the way DCI does.

DCAcorps.org

WGI is Winter Guard International and consists of two immediate divisions: Colorguard and Percussion

within those there's Independent and Scholastic divisions , Independent meaning they stand alone as an organization and Scholastic meaning they are from a high school or college.

Within the Independent and Scholastic Divisions theres Class A, Open Class, and World Class.

As far as I know most independent organizations rehearse on the weekends while the scholastic ones do it at their digression (every day, just the weekends, whatever)

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sxetnrdrmr wrote:
Timartin wrote:
Chris_Dakine wrote:hey i always wanted to know why woodwinds arent included in DCI. o_o
because woodwind players have no business in something as BA as Drumcorps!
...well, it's ACTUALLY because the activity evolved out of the old military/VFW marching parade bands which didn't have woodwinds. These old brass instruments were bugles - meaning no valves. All the notes are made with the embouchre. Woodwinds really can't be heard over the brass so they just never were utilized...
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Re: Drum Corps? (what is it? what is dca/wgi?)

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:24 pm



Are DCA corps easier to get into than DCI corps? How are they different? (other than no age restrictions).


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I would say it depends on the popularity of the corps, but I think it is somewhat easier to get into a DCA corps than a DCI corps. Since DCI corps are more popular and have more trying out and such. Don't take my word for it though, I haven't audition for either (yet) only going off a friend that marched both (but on brass). Other than the age restriction, the touring is different. They don't tour as heavily as the DCI corps, and im sure they are alot cheaper to march. I can't think of any other big differences at the moment.
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Creekynoise wrote:I would say it depends on the popularity of the corps, but I think it is somewhat easier to get into a DCA corps than a DCI corps. Since DCI corps are more popular and have more trying out and such. Don't take my word for it though, I haven't audition for either (yet) only going off a friend that marched both (but on brass). Other than the age restriction, the touring is different. They don't tour as heavily as the DCI corps, and im sure they are alot cheaper to march. I can't think of any other big differences at the moment.

i think its much easier. i sighned up for sun devils thinking they were going to send me audition music and i got an email a day later giving me a practice schedule and asking me when i can make it.
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A couple of DCA corps near me (Alliance and CorpVets) are pretty good, atleast percussion wise. Some of them are ex-DCIers them selves so its still a bit of a challenge beating them if you've never marched before, but to what snaredrummer added, it just depends on the corps and where you are and who they have and what they need to fill. It just depends on the pool that they have to select from.
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snarescience wrote:I love TheDude - excellent response.

I remember going to my first drum corps show in 1995, completely clueless. When we got to the stadium I heard hornlines warming up and I was like, 'Oh man, I thought this was just going to be drums! " :x

Then I saw Scouts '95 and couldn't sleep for like 3 days because it made such an impression on me. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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damn, some old posts getting bumped.

Check out the websites to learn more, just a suggestion.

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This website will help you if you want to know what WGI is
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I have to Correct you on one thing TheDude, and this is probably not your fault for not knowing this but over the last two seasons the term Senior Corps has been removed from DCA, it is now know as All-Age Corps, because DCA has become a breeding ground for future DCI members.

I marched a DCA Corps Last Year from Atlanta called The CorpsVets, the entire snare line had marched either DCI or WGI and the center was Lance Kindle (the snare soloist for Blast! for the past several years). Several of the horn players marched CorpsVets to prepare themselves for DCI as well, one of my friends tought himself a horn (he's already an accomplished Cellist) got excellent instruction at CorpsVets now he's marching Spirit

All of the Staff has WGI/DCI experience
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Wagsdrummer92 wrote:I have to Correct you on one thing TheDude, and this is probably not your fault for not knowing this but over the last two seasons the term Senior Corps has been removed from DCA, it is now know as All-Age Corps, because DCA has become a breeding ground for future DCI members.

I marched a DCA Corps Last Year from Atlanta called The CorpsVets, the entire snare line had marched either DCI or WGI and the center was Lance Kindle (the snare soloist for Blast! for the past several years). Several of the horn players marched CorpsVets to prepare themselves for DCI as well, one of my friends tought himself a horn (he's already an accomplished Cellist) got excellent instruction at CorpsVets now he's marching Spirit

All of the Staff has WGI/DCI experience
and several of the older members are DCI Age-outs
We Also had one DCI Hall of Famer marching Soprano/Trumpet Hunter Moss

I marched CV in 08 :)
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Wagsdrummer92 wrote:I have to Correct you on one thing TheDude, and this is probably not your fault for not knowing this but over the last two seasons the term Senior Corps has been removed from DCA, it is now know as All-Age Corps, because DCA has become a breeding ground for future DCI members.
It's definitely not his fault for not knowing since that post was made before the last two seasons even happened
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PhantomPhan89 wrote:
Wagsdrummer92 wrote:I have to Correct you on one thing TheDude, and this is probably not your fault for not knowing this but over the last two seasons the term Senior Corps has been removed from DCA, it is now know as All-Age Corps, because DCA has become a breeding ground for future DCI members.

I marched a DCA Corps Last Year from Atlanta called The CorpsVets, the entire snare line had marched either DCI or WGI and the center was Lance Kindle (the snare soloist for Blast! for the past several years). Several of the horn players marched CorpsVets to prepare themselves for DCI as well, one of my friends tought himself a horn (he's already an accomplished Cellist) got excellent instruction at CorpsVets now he's marching Spirit

All of the Staff has WGI/DCI experience
and several of the older members are DCI Age-outs
We Also had one DCI Hall of Famer marching Soprano/Trumpet Hunter Moss

I marched CV in 08 :)
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