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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:34 pm



Lol, thats beautiful. Are you a teacher?


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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:38 pm



Calm Down, Ryan.

You look like some serious business. You need to get some more SCV in your diet.
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:59 pm



teh_Guardian wrote:Calm Down, Ryan.

You look like some serious business. You need to get some more SCV in your diet.
SCV relaxes the soul. :D
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:54 am



that exercise is crazy. imma start takin some cracks at it soon.. i have a semi busy day today but it seems pretty intense.. idk if its as intense as Ryan displayed but we'll see lol


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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:33 pm



snaredrummer wrote:that exercise is crazy. imma start takin some cracks at it soon.. i have a semi busy day today but it seems pretty intense.. idk if its as intense as Ryan displayed but we'll see lol
Me too. Ironically, now that marching band is over, I can start practicing like crazy again.


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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:59 pm



I'm glad you all like it :)

Now just try and learn it in a day like Ryan :P
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:45 pm



haha im trying man...tough


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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:08 am



OK, here is a video of me playing this ram. I haven't practiced in a long, long time, and it definitely shows. My heights are all over the place and I screwed up the timing coming back into 16th notes from that triplet in the 4th to last measure. Whatever. Also, I didn't memorize it like Ryan did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDipaJ-k-IU


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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:49 am



Great job! That was pretty good.


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:01 pm



god...my goal is to come to a point where i can understand this level of music, let alone perform.


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:09 pm



rudlka89 wrote:god...my goal is to come to a point where i can understand this level of music, let alone perform.
It's all about ear training. The reason you don't understand it is because you quite can't replicate the sound to begin with. When I first saw Phantom's percussion section of the show on the net, I didn't know what to make of it but I made it my personal goal to figure out what they were doing. So I watched it over, and over, and over, and that just wasn't enough. So what I did is I took a small segment ( a measure or so at a time ), watched it, and then tried to replicate that sound by drum speaking---yes, drum speak. Can you drum speak a flam accent? If you try speaking a flam accent and you are dutting instead of CHUTting for the flam, then you probably have problems popping your flams when you do that rudiment. If you can say it, you can play it (well that's the phrase they told me at snare camp this summer).

Anyway, I found that after drum speaking each part I found that the only way to replicate THIS sound is if I did THIS with my hands, X sounded like "dika torta da dap chugga chigga chap CHOGGLE bigga bigga bop!" so "CHOGGLE" had to be a flam five and I could see on the video it had to be on the left, since that's where I heard it (sorry for my translation of my drum speak, I don't think it's legible language :lol:)...once I replicated the sound vocally, I knew after a while what I had to do with my hands. Pretty soon I had half the section memorized, after that I gave up because I realized I had to work more on my basics than memorizing parts for a show, lol. Try it for your self man.
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:24 pm



haha...thanks, that response was way more in-depth and helpful than i could've hoped for. i definitely believe in the value of speaking a part and playing it over and over again. i actually did just that to overcome a certain passage that was bothering me - the breakdown of the cadets 2003 drum break; part one was a ram consisting of sixteenth notes, rim shots, diddles - basic stuff, but the breakdown was a dizzying array of dotted 8ths and 8ths placed in annoyingly tricky spots. i'm sure you know what i'm talking about but i'll post the youtube anyway.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z5oLGz3MG3U

the point is, i did the whole speak it and play it thing, and it worked! hopefully i can someday apply it to other stuff too.


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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:10 pm



snarescience wrote:Here is my mediocre attempt. God my mouth does some retardo *beep*.
You've got some amazing hands.

Is your signature supposed to say that you marched Madison in 2000?


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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:03 pm



Ryan wrote:
snarescience wrote:Here is my mediocre attempt. God my mouth does some retardo *beep*.
You've got some amazing hands.

Is your signature supposed to say that you marched Madison in 2000?
Thanks. I fixed the typo. :oops:
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:04 am



snarescience wrote:Thanks. I fixed the typo. :oops:
Was 2000 Jesus Christ Superstar? If so, I totally lifted a watered version of your guys' drum break for a high school line I taught in 2001.

And again, you have some amazing clarity to your playing. Pretty much everything you played in this "Ram" vid was right on the money - grace note placement, dynamics, rhythmic interp, evenness from hand to hand, etc. Really that sound that you get from spending hours upon hours in some random Wisconsin parking lot, playing accent-tap exercises backward, forward and upside-down.


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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:12 am



Ryan wrote:
snarescience wrote:Thanks. I fixed the typo. :oops:
Was 2000 Jesus Christ Superstar? If so, I totally lifted a watered version of your guys' drum break for a high school line I taught in 2001.
You are thinking of 1999... 2000 was the Cossack Brotherhood show.
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:05 am



this piece is beautiful..haha
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:02 pm



what program did you use to write the music for it? i would like to submit some of my stuff i have laying around
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:01 pm



I used Sibelius 5.
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:06 pm



can i download that from somewhere?
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:20 pm



ghostsnare101 wrote:can i download that from somewhere?
You can download sibelius 3 off the net.


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:39 pm



where?
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2008 - The Hunt - Baritone
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:55 pm



I have Sibelius 4. Its the best thing i've ever used. It has the quality(if not better) of finale, but its so easy to learn to use.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:12 am



ghostsnare101 wrote:where?
i can send you it if you want?


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:13 am



that would be great
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